Businesswoman and TV personality Michelle Dewberry has expressed her "serious concerns" over the UK's future if the country votes to leave the European Union.
Dewberry, who in 2006 won the second series of TV show The Apprentice, recently met with one of the leaders of the Leave Campaign, Michael Gove, to discuss Brexit.
"I was on Sky News, he was on Sky News," she told Sam Delaney. "I just told [Gove] I didn't understand [the arguments for leaving the EU], I couldn't rationalise it in my head.
"He knows I'm in a position where I'm doing research, a lot of people asking for my opinion, and where I'm debating it on a lot of platforms."
Unfortunately for the Secretary of State for Justice, he did not manage to convince Dewberry.
"I do have some real serious concerns," she said. "One of the main ones is that the UK could be a strong country in its own right, but what happens if Scotland or Wales hold referendums and leave?
"The size and scale of England, the trading ability and the economy we have, would really diminish."