Norman Lamb insists he feels positive about the future of the Liberal Democrats following the results of the local and devolved elections.
The party, still in recovery from the losses sustained in last year's general election, held onto the majority of their seats in the national elections, even gaining two in Scotland - Edinburgh Western and Fife North East.
The Lib Dems also won a majority on eight different district councils around the UK.
And Lamb, the MP for North Norfolk, explained what the results mean for the party's future, calling them 'green shoots'.
"This is no massive breakthrough but there are signs of life there," he told Julia Hartley-Brewer. "All of these people who thought we were finished, dead and buried, have been proved wrong, I think."
"We have this capacity to bounce back [from the results of the 2015 general election] and I think this is starting."