The director of Operation Black Vote believes the Black Lives Matter protest at London City Airport has been beneficial, as it's started a conversation about inequality.
Members of Black Lives Matter breached security to get onto the runway at London City Airport and disrupt flights, protesting about "the UK's environmental impact on the lives of black people locally and globally".
Simon Woolley, one of the founders of Operation Black Vote, an organisation working to ensure racial justice in the UK, said: "The question we need to ask ourselves is 'would we be talking about race and inequality today?'"
In an often tense debate with Julia Hartley-Brewer, Woolley said: "Inequality gaps are actually getting worse and not better. [Black Lives Matter] want to make people's lives better, and also equally critical, to unlock potential to which everybody benefits.
"They've used this disruption to say 'look, we need to have a conversation on how these inequality factors disproportionately affect black people.'
"There's a lot of dynamics, and you add them up together, and as a result of all these dynamics that so many black people are suffering respiratory problems because of their poverty."
Listen to the full interview to hear the heated debate between Woolley and Julia