Dan Wootton has said that he played with Barbie dolls when he was growing up and he is “so glad” that his mother was “able to embrace that freedom of expression”.
Wootton was discussing whether it was “PC lunacy” to have gender-neutral clothing and toys with his guest Godfrey Bloom, the libertarian author and former UKIP MEP.
“I have personal experience of this as a gay man,” said talkRADIO’s Wootton.
“I did play with Barbie dolls growing up and I am so glad that my mother was able to embrace that freedom of expression. She did not try to stop me and it was totally natural.”
Mr Bloom argued that it was better to allow children “the normal way of society” because they were “too young to make serious judgements”.
He added: “That is you. What I am suggesting is that you are one of a very small minority of people in that particular way.
“Most people in the world are either straight boys or straight girls because that is how God made us.”
“You don’t know that,” Wootton responded.
'Homophobic and backwards'
Mr Bloom, who served as an MEP for Yorkshire and the Humber from 2004 to 2014, added that it was “easier” to “assume” children would be part of “mainstream society”.
He said: “I am not saying that there is anything wrong with your lifestyle, what I am suggesting is that it is much easier for younger children brought along assuming they are going to be mainstream society.”
Wootton described Mr Bloom’s response as “ridiculous” and “homophobic”.
“Do you honestly believe that at six-years-old I made a choice about my lifestyle?,” he asked.
“That is ridiculous, homophobic and backwards. You don’t make a choice about your lifestyle, you just are who you are.
“My mum and dad let me be who I was. I was not making a choice at six-years-old about my lifestyle. You’re bigoted.”
Mr Bloom said he was “offended” at being called “bigoted”.
He added: “That is the point I am making, six-years-old is too young to be pushed in any direction at all. It has to be a natural flow.”