Iain Duncan Smith: 'There's no such thing as no deal'

Iain Duncan Smith: 'There's no such thing as no deal'

Monday, August 20, 2018

Iain Duncan Smith has dismissed polls claiming to show that the UK public is leaning towards a pro-EU stance, and says “there’s no such thing as no-deal” when it comes to Brexit.

Research commissioned by Best for Britain and Hope Not Hate has shown that some constituencies that voted for Brexit have now switched their opinion to Remain.

Consumer analytics company Focaldata modelled two YouGov polls - one conducted before Theresa May unveiled her Brexit plans on July 6, and one after - to measure the shift.

The polls had 15,000 respondents in total.

Liverpool Walton was the constituency with the biggest shift, with a 14.3% swing to Remain. Knowsley, Swansea and Hayes and Harlington followed, with a 13.4% and joint 12.8% shift respectively.


'There are more Remainers wishing to leave'

But a poll by Deltapoll for the Sun on Sunday painted a different picture - a question asking respondents to pick a statement they most agreed with showed 40% thought the UK should leave the EU as planned, with or without a deal.

Some 31% thought there should be a second referendum on whether to leave, 15% thought there should be a referendum on the terms of the deal, and 15% didn’t know.

The total number of people polled was 1,904.

“[The Best for Britain survey] wasn’t a poll, it was a construction by someone, that purported to say so many Leavers had changed their mind and this would affect MPs in their constituencies,” said Duncan Smith, speaking to Ann Widdecombe on the talkRADIO mid-morning show.

“As the Sun poll shows, it’s a load of old rubbish, and in fact there are more Remainers wishing to leave.”

Widdecombe agreed, saying: “I can say from my own experience, just from talking to people who voted Remain with complete conviction, who’ve told me that they would now vote leave because they’ve been so disgusted by the way the Junckers and the Barniers of this world have tried to bully the UK.

“Let’s just try and disentangle this, there are those who say no deal is better than a bad deal, and those who say any deal is better than no deal. Where do you stand on that and what would be the consequences of no deal?”


'Chequers agreement won't deliver what people voted for'

Watch above: Jacob Rees-Mogg says 'Brexit and Chequers are not the same thing'

Duncan Smith has long been a supporter of a no-deal option, and is supporting the campaign group StandUp4Brexit.

“In reality there is no such thing as no deal” he said.

“There is just a deal, and the reason for that is, the government’s got this fudge on the table to the European Union which means we’d become rule takers and wouldn’t be able to change from the EU, and that I think is the worst of all worlds.

“Then there’s the alternative, which is what David Davis put forward in his original white paper which was binned by the government, which was a free trade deal based on the best of the free trade deals that have been done with Japan, Korea, Canada etc.

“The third option, failing any of that if the EU doesn’t want to do that, is going onto WTO (World Trade Organisation) terms. It’s a highly regulated body and it rules all trade between nations including the EU.”

He said the Chequers plan would not offer the UK any involvement in EU lawmaking.

“I think the Chequers plan is not what the people voted for, they voted to take back control…

“The trouble with the Chequers agreement is it doesn’t deliver that, it doesn’t deliver control of your borders because in essence, all the rulings will be in the [European] Court of Justice. They’ll have continuing power of the transfer of goods to the EU and the alignment of things like manufactured goods.

“There is talk now of them having some kind of arrangement over freedom of movement. It’s the worst of all worlds because we wouldn’t have a say over those rules.”

Brexit negotiations are ongoing in Brussels, with Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab set to meet Michel Barnier on Tuesday (August 21).

Listen to Justine Greening calling for a second referendum below