James Whale on Brexiteers: 'You couldn't tell the truth if your life depended on it!'

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Wednesday, July 18, 2018

James Whale was accused of having his “knickers in a twist” by a pro-Brexit guest who clashed with him on the show.

Brendan Chilton of Labour Leave, the unofficial Eurosceptic wing of the Labour party, found himself cut off by Whale after calling his argument “silly”, and tweeted about the exchange.

“You should be ashamed of yourself, mate,” Whale began, when Chilton joined him on air over the phone.

Whale is a strong critic of the Brexit process - and was gunning for the Brexiteer following the news yesterday that Vote Leave had been fined for breaking electoral law.

Labour Leave was not part of the Electoral Commission’s investigation, but the Commission previously found the group to have received money from the Vote Leave campaign, and from Conservative donors.

'Call me silly, I'll cut you off!'

“No, I don’t think I should be ashamed of myself, this is what the country voted for and parliament are getting on with it,” Chilton responded.

“By no means all the country,” Whale argued, to which Chilton said he was employing a “silly argument”.

“Don’t call me silly or I’ll cut you off! I’m getting fed up with democracy because you and the Vote Leavers messed it all up. You couldn’t tell the truth if your flippin’ lives depended on it!” ranted Whale.

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“You picked up the phone and said, ‘you should be ashamed of yourself’, that’s no way to welcome a guest to your show,” said Chilton.

“I’ll welcome a guest to my show any way I like, and if you don’t like it, you don’t have to stay. Furthermore, if you don’t like it, get your own show!” Whale retorted.

Chilton accused Whale of not being “very professional”, to which the host hung up.

“Brendan, goodbye, I don’t need to speak to you anymore,” he said.

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The bizarre exchange was watched by co-host Ash, who took Chilton’s side.

'Leaving EU will free up small businesses'

Whale did calm down enough to let Chilton rejoin the show, where he disagreed with Whale’s assertion that leaving the EU without a trade agreement would affect jobs.

“A lot of people’s jobs rely on the free trade movement, the customs union. Doing what those politicians have done to this nation is unforgivable,” said Whale.

“If we leave the EU now, it will never be the same again. We need to reintroduce some kind of relationship with other European countries.”

“You’ve got to bear in mind, the vast majority of businesses in the UK do not export to the EU, they export to external markets,” argued Chilton.

“Yet they still have to apply all the regulations and rules that come from Brussels. This notion that leaving the EU will be a disaster for all business - actually it’s going to free up the majority of small and medium-sized businesses.”

Yesterday, the government defeated an attempt in parliament by pro-EU MPs to get the UK to join a customs union with the EU in the event of a trade deal not being struck.