Julia Hartley-Brewer had a heated argument with feminist and fellow talkRADIO presenter Harriet Minter about warning women against behaviour which could put them in dangerous situations.
Retiring Judge Lindsey Kushner has warned that women's "disinhibited behaviour" while drunk puts them in danger of being raped by men who "gravitate" towards vulnerable women. However she added that "girls are perfectly entitled to drink themselves into the ground."
Minter, the presenter of talkRADIO's Badass Women's Hour, told Julia that the judge is "reinforcing a stereotype and a belief that when women turn up in court we don’t believe them" and we're going back to saying it is "the fault of women that they are raped."
But Julia strongly disagreed and said the judge "categorically" said the blame was not on the victim. She said "we don’t get a choice between whether we live in the real world or the world we would like it to be," so surely we must tell women you’ve got just as much right to get drunk as the men, but you are at bigger risk because you are an 'easy target.'"
Minter argued that there should be "harsher punishments for men who are preying on these women" and the judge is ignoring "hundred of years of history" about how we treat women and assumptions we make about them.
Listen to the full interview above