Julia Hartley-Brewer engaged in a heated discussion with a spokesman for pro-Remain group Open Britain over EU immigration.
Will Cousins spoke to our mid-morning host about the Home Office review into the effect of migration on the UK, announced this morning.
The report is set to be published in September 2018, just six months before the scheduled completion of the Brexit negotiation process, and Cousins said this was "far too late."
He told Julia Hartley-Brewer: "What you see this morning is Government migration policy in total chaos.
"This Government’s been in office for over a year, and they're leaving it until now to search for evidence to inform what their policy will be for immigration from the EU.
"If they wait until then [September 2018] for the evidence, they won't have time to set up the system in the six months left.
“It’s ludicrous. They seem very confused on what they’re doing on immigration."
He proceeded to argue with Julia over the importing of EU workers to the UK, arguing there will always be "vacancies and staff shortages" UK citizens can't fill.
Julia asked Cousins if he seriously believed British people can't carry out some of the low-skilled jobs performed by EU migrants.
The interviewee countered by saying he wants British people to "skill up" and set their sights higher - but Julia came back with the suggestion that "some people can't do more than pick fruit."
Julia also said we don't need to import a single nurse - a comment which drew incredulity from Cousins.