talkRADIO presenter Julia Hartley-Brewer has said we mustn't retreat into our "terribly uncomfortable liberal bubble" and try to claim the London Bridge terror attacks have nothing to do with Islam.
She made the comments while speaking to Alan Mendoza, director of the Henry Jackson Society thinktank, about what Britain can do to respond to Saturday's attack.
Mendoza said a major problem with the Quran is one of interpretation. But Julia said some verses of the Islamic holy text encourage believers to kill infidels in explicit terms.
Mendoza continued by saying our post-colonial "liberal guilt" hampers us in tackling the issue of islamic extremism, and "there is nothing islamophobic" in discussing this problem.
Listen to the full interview above