'Leave would win by a greater margin' in a second referendum, says Kate Hoey

'Leave would win by a greater margin' in a second referendum, says Kate Hoey

Monday, December 17, 2018

Leave campaigner Kate Hoey has told Julia Hartley-Brewer that she thinks “Leave would win by a greater margin” if a second referendum was held.

She joined Hartley-Brewer on the talkRADIO breakfast show alongside Remainer Jim Fitzpatrick, Labour MP for Poplar and Limehouse.

Ms Hoey, the Labour MP for Vauxhall, said a World Trade Organisation Brexit - in other words, no deal - was “looking more likely”.

“My personal view would be that we should make sure really good preparations are going on for a WTO Brexit, that is looking for likely as time goes on,” she said.

“The idea of a second referendum - I don’t see what it would achieve. I think personally, having been getting out of London, that Leave would win by a greater margin.”

She added that once the Electoral Commission had become involved to regulate the question on the ballot paper, it could be “another five months or so”.


'Parliament is full of MPs who don't want to leave'

Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell. Image: Getty

Mr Fitzpatrick said that a referendum should not be held until Theresa May’s deal had been put to parliament, and said that Labour "don't have the power" to force that to happen. 

“The first thing that parliament’s got to do is have a vote on what’s been negotiated by Theresa May,” he said.

“Once we get that out of the way, that will then clarify whether Labour’s going to put down a vote of no confidence, and once we get that out of the way, then we’ll be in clearer territory to see what the options are.”

Asked by Hartley-Brewer which way Labour would campaign if there was a second referendum, Mr Fitzpatrick admitted that the party was split.

“I really don’t now. Jeremy [Corbyn] and John [McDonnell] have had Eurosceptic leanings for many years.

“It’s quite clear Brexit splits parties, it doesn’t go down party lines. There isn’t a unified point of view.”

However Mr McDonnell told talkRADIO in November that he campaigned for Remain in the run-up to the Brexit vote, and thought the pro-EU side had clinched it.

Ms Hoey said she did not think a second referendum should give an option to remain.

“I certainly don’t think Remain should be on it again,” she said.

“I think what your listeners need to know, is that parliament is full of MPs who didn’t want to leave, and yes, they will say they want to implement the referendum, but actually behind the scenes they’re working so hard - if they can’t stop us leaving completely, they want to keep us tied in to the EU.”