Nigel Farage isn't the "be all and end all" of UKIP, according to leadership challenger Raheem Kassam.
Speaking to James Whale, Kassam says the party won't die when Mr Farage walks away, and suggested it will have a key role to play in ending the "one-party state" overseen by the Conservatives.
Mr Farage is currently leading the party on an interim basis following the shock resignation of Diane James after just 18 days in charge. However he has said he has no intention of returning to the job on a permanent basis.
Kassam, a former aide to Mr Farage, also said he would like to maintain the party "in Nigel's mould" and mapped out his plans for greater transparency in the public sector and a reduction in NHS waste.
He told James that the government has been scared of tackling the health service in the past and this has to stop.
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