talkRADIO’s Mike Graham has said that the people on a chartered deportation flight to Jamaica should not be allowed to remain in the UK, amid pressure from MPs and campaigners to stop the plane.
There are up to 50 people - all of which the government says are foreign nationals who have criminal convictions - believed to be leaving on a flight from an RAF base on Wednesday.
Graham clashed with guest Karen Doyle from Movement for Justice, who said that Graham must “lead a very sad and isolated life” if he truly believed the people should be deported.
“If you think that is okay then I feel very sorry for you,” she said.
“You must lead a very sad and isolated life.”
He responded: “I don’t lead a sad and isolated life at all. I lead a very good life thank you very much.
“I believe in the rule of law and I don’t believe in allowing people who might be dangerous in the community being allowed to remain in it.
“If it means you have to deport people to outside of this country because if that is where they belong then that is where they go.”
'Their fathers are criminals'
Ms Doyle drew attention to the number of those on the plane who had British children.
“These are people who have been here since they were children,” she said.
“These are people who are products of this system. Their entire families are here and of the people I have spoken to 32 British children are having their fathers taken away.”
“But their fathers are criminals,” Graham responded.
Birmingham-based law firm Rogols Solicitors said on Twitter it had secured an injunction to halt the deportation of a fifth man, former soldier Twane Morgan, on Tuesday.
He is said to have no relatives in Jamaica and has five children, and a British long-term partner.
He served in the British army, including two tours in Afghanistan, before being discharged with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) in 2007.
Mr Morgan was jailed for six years following a conviction in 2011, serving three years.
'It is a life sentence'
Ms Doyle added that these people have already “done their time” for their crimes.
“In the rule of law of Britain, it says that if you have done your time you should be treated with equality, respect and given the opportunity to change,” she said.
“Unless you are a foreign national,” Graham added.
“You don’t know what you are talking about. The law may be wrong in your eyes but the law is the law.
“There is no point in having a law if you don’t abide by it. If you want to break the law then you should lose some of your rights.
“I don’t think there is a problem with that and I think most right-thinking would agree.”
Ms Doyle argued that they were not “losing some of their rights” but instead being given a “life sentence.”
“They should have thought of that before they committed a crime,” he replied.