Julia Hartley-Brewer had a fiery Brexit debate with the deputy director of pro-Remain campaign group Open Britain, Francis Grove-White.
During the interview Julia accused Grove-White of lying about figures regarding European Union migrants in the NHS, while her interviewee claimed there’s no guarantee that sufficient progress will be authorised by the 27 EU countries this week.
Theresa May is to tell MPs that there is a "sense of optimism" over Brexit after she reached a breakthrough deal with her EU counterparts last week on the Irish border, payment and citizen's rights. The Prime Minister is said to expect that EU leaders will agree that talks can move on this Thursday (December 14).
Grove-White claimed "one in five EU doctors saying that they’re going to leave" the UK, but Julia hit back by saying "there are actually more EU doctors working in the NHS in the last year than there were in the year before.
"You’re going to chose to spout lies on my show and hope that I won’t know the real facts" but "no one gets to come on my show and lie I’m afraid you’re always going to get called out on it i always know the facts, sorry."
The campaigner also pointed out that he wants the UK to stay in the single market and customs union and that wasn't on the ballot paper. But our talkRADIO host responded by saying "I’m surprised we’re allowed to vote we’re so stupid and uninformed."
Grove-White suggested "there’s no guarantee that sufficient progress will be authorised" by the EU Council and there is a risk it won't be agreed due to the Irish border.
Julia then claimed "the Irish government is going to want to carry on doing trade with the UK" and therefore "they’re going to have to basically, for want of a better phrase, they’re going to have to like it or lump it."
Grove-White also added "in the broader sense if we’re seen to be a country that says one thing to get talks moving on an international agreement, that we have our fingers crossed behind our backs, and then we go out and start telling the papers here that actually we didn’t really mean it...then that just completely undermines our credibility.
"Nobody's going to want to do a free trade agreement with us least of all the European Union."
Listen to the full interview above