Scottish National Party MP Stephen Gethins has insisted the party's renewed independence bid wasn't pre-planned, but was rather a necessary response to the UK's Brexit vote.
Some have accused the SNP of exploiting Brexit to begin a new push for secession, suggesting the pro-independence party was always going to demand a new referendum.
But after SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon announced a new independence bill will be published next week, Gethins told Sam Delaney this course of action has been forced on the party.
"Of course it wasn't always planned," he told Sam. "We didn't think we'd be taken out of the European Union against our will."
The pair also butted heads when Delaney suggested it was "selfish" for Scotland to quit the UK when the rest of the country has to live with the referendum result, while Gethins said "the Tory government are taking us down a path of isolation, not the Scottish government."