Julia Hartley-Brewer was distinctly unimpressed when Southern Rail director Alex Foulds claimed staff sickness has soared since the current labour dispute began.
Foulds spoke to talkRADIO as a fresh wave of strikes began across the Southern network, condemning passengers to further misery.
Foulds claimed there has been a marked increase in staff sick days during Southern's stand-off with the RMT and Aslef unions over the role of train conductors. He refused to be drawn when Julia suggested some drivers' sick notes might be works of fiction.
Foulds also insisted Southern are trying to find a way out of the deadlock, and "have now made yet another offer to Aslef to start talks again." The end goal, he said, was to "provide less cancellations and less delays."
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