Television presenter and Kenyan wildlife conservationist Saba Douglas-Hamilton joined Julia Hartley-Brewer to chat about the magnificence of elephants.
Saba, who is touring with her show A Life With Elephants, told Julia: "When you meet an elephant you feel that you really are in the presence that is quite magnificent.
"There’s no reason why we can’t have a modern world with elephants. You’ve got to think big, we’ve got to bring the wildness back into our lives."
Douglas-Hamilton also told the story of being carried by her mother as a child to meet an elephant and said "I always feel like I was baptised by elephant breath."
The family then met the same elephant when she was 20 years-old and the her dad called the elephant's "name over and over again and talked to her in that same voice that she had known and learnt to trust.
"All of a sudden she remembered her family and she tossed her head and spun around."
Listen to the full interview above