From Nigel Farage to Jeremy Corbyn, Brexit to Chilcot, there's an absolute ocean of news going on at the moment.
But Jon Holmes thinks a more serious issue is... oceans themselves.
Derek loves oceans, and can't get enough of them.
"We need oceans, because there has to be something to put in-between countries."
Steve however, doesn't think this holds water.
"We had a lovely time on holiday, we went down on the beach. Alright there's sea, there's pebbles, but we spend most of our time in the town," he explained. "Did we need the ocean? No, we didn't!"
"I don't like fish, fish stinks!"
The debate then moved on to Billy Ocean, and descended into "singing". Have a listen and see which side you'd swim on.